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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Dread Drama - Did Celts And/Or Other White People Historically Wear Their Hair In Dreadlocks?

Edited by Azizi Powell

This post presents excerpts and comments from a 2011 [?] blog post entitled "Dread drama". Participants in that blog discussed whether it is traditional for White people to wear dreadlocks or is that a form of cultural appropriation.

The content of this post is presented for historical, sociological, and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/03/white-people-with-dreadlocks-with.html "White People With Dreadlocks (With Special Attention to Ru-Paul Drag Race Contestant Thorgy Thor)" for a related pancocojams on White people wearing dreadlocks.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
These excerpts are numbered for referencing purposes.

Note that some of the posts and comments that are excerpted here contain profanity.

As per the policy of this blog, amended spelling is used for words that are considered profanity.

I think that the blog post entitled "Dread Drama" was first posted by note-a-bear. But I'm not sure about that. Excerpt #1 presents several comments that were published in response to that blog post. Excerpt #2 quotes that blog post and presents other comments, and Excerpt #3 referenced that note-a-bear blog post.

The quotes given in italics below were written that way in those comments. I believe the blogger is quoted more than one other commenter. However, no names were given (that I could find) for those commenters. I think I attributed the right name to the bloggers who are quoting those other commenters. My apologies if I gave the wrong attribution. Additions and corrections are welcome.

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FEATURED EXCERPTS
EXCERPT #1:
From http://note-a-bear.tumblr.com/post/10299295563/dread-drama "Dread drama"; Dumbthingswhitepplsay & other commenters [in italics], September 16, 2011
...."Reblogging because seriously white people. Seriously.
Well, the Celts did have dreadlocks. The Romans reported Celtic warriors as having “hair like snakes,” which has been taken to imply that they had dreadlocks. Its also been recorded that Germanic tribes, Greeks, and Vikings often wore dreadlocks as all. So as far as historically speaking, there is plenty of precedent for white people having dreads. Its also considered to have Biblical origins, with Delilah cutting off Samson’s “seven locks.”

So I’m going to say, yeah, its not appropriative for white people to have dreads. My ethnic ancestory is Celtic/Viking, both of which have been recorded as historically having dreads. I would never get dreads, but still.

The earliest recording, I believe, is Egypt where dreads are seen in hieroglyphs.

As for the entire rest of “Rafiki’s” post (spiritual name? wtf?), I’m not even going to touch that. As someone with Scottish ancestry who’s Scottish relatives came to the US and worked their asses off, I’m not sure what the hell this Scottish people being lazy bullsh&t* is.

this was the wrong conversation to butt in the middle of if you are white

Couple things: Samson and Delilah probably weren’t “white” as the ideology exists today…and neither were the Egyptians (people from Kemet…”land of the blacks”.) So…maybe those two groups shouldn’t be used to bolster your point?



I tried real hard not to butt in on this, but I ahve [sic] to say:

Germanic, Gallic, and Celtic hairstyles, prior to Roman Conquest, and subsequent Anglo-/Germanic empire-building were absolutely not dreadlocks as we speak of them.

What I will concede to is that there were traditions of matting, plaiting, and braiding hair. The Roman references to “hair like snakes” could just as easily be speaking to long hair, since, as an essentially Mediterranean nation, Rome generally ascribed to short hair for those citizens in power. The military (through which nearly every Roman-born citizen and sub-citizen had to pass upon achieving adulthood) required short hair. Short hair was considered the standard for Romans.

Having gotten that out of the way, we can move on to what they would have seen from almost every non-Roman/non-warm weather nation they came across: Long, matted, braided, or otherwise “unkempt” hair by their standards. Hence, “hair of snakes.” Never mind that if you look at the other big Greco-Roman reference to “hair of snakes” (Medusa), archaeologists and anthropologists have ascribed that hair to the what would be considered, by our standards, mussed, dirtied, or generally “unrefined” hairstyles.

So, that brings us back to the Gauls, the Celts, the Saxons, the (Visi-, Ostro-) Goths, the Vandals, the Angles, and just about everyone North of what is now Italy. All those tribes had traditions of plaiting hair. They also, did not have the same traditions of cutting hair that the Romans did.

That is the only conceit I will give in this matter of dreadlocks.

Also, let’s be real, the Romans were notoriously unreliable observers when it came to the people north of contemporary Italy. Half of their references to the people of the North were to call them “Black” or some variation thereof.

So, y'know, don’t use the Romans to bolster your argument, in general."

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EXCERPT #2
From http://marzipanandminutiae.tumblr.com/post/147900986482/dread-drama (via theroguefeminist), [two commenters, screen names ?]
"I normally don’t bother putting my two cents in about dreadlocks (as a white girl I don’t really think its my place) but I do know a few things about celtic ‘dreadlocks,’ which is why I get annoyed when people of celtic decent use their heritage to justify having dreadlocks.

For one thing they weren’t even called dreadlocks they’re gleebs, I think the term dreadlock in itself is an appropriated term. Another thing is they weren’t made like any of the modern dreadlocks we see today. They were most commonly worn by warriors going into battle who would matt their hair and then cake it with mud/clay to make intimidating shapes to scare their enemies. This could therefore mean they were more like punk spikes than dreadlocks. Some however did just cake their matts with mud and leave them down so they could look a bit like modern dreadlocks. But it could be argued unless you cake your hair with mud you can’t use being a celt to justify having dreadlocks. Some people think the celts had matted hair because they were barbarians who never washed or brushed their hair which could be equally true, and some white people do make dreadlocks this way. But that is disgusting in my opinion and it is part of the reason dreadlocks have such a bad reputation, so if you have hair like that I suggest you just call it matted and not dreadlocked.

I will admit that there was a form of gleeb worn by the wealthier celts which may seem more appealing. They would have twisted their hair and tied pretty yarns around it, similar to a lot of white people with dreadlocks today. However these were not matted they were twists, perhaps they were similar to the twist and pull dreadlock making method but the structure of them were different. I’ve experimented with this form of gleeb on my hair, which is very stereotypical celtic hair (think Merida in Brave) and the twists do stay in due to the curl and dryness of my hair. However when I tried it on my sister who has only a gentle wave it was impossible, her hair was far too fine and slippy. They can be brushed out but I was also able to wash my hair and they remained intact when I did not use conditioner in the areas with gleebs I just had to tidy them a bit. I only kept them in for a month so perhaps over time the feel of them would have changed to a more dreadlock type form but they did look more like twists than dreadlocks.

In my opinion you shouldn’t use being celtic as an excuse to have dreadlocks. Celtic gleebs were a different thing and anyone uses being celtic as an excuse they should do their research into it first and know not to call them dreadlocks. It is very difficult to find any references for gleebs, I came across it in obscure texts in my university library whilst researching ancient irish textiles and was interested so I looked into it a bit more. As it is written about in so few places and they often refer to the same clans, I assume only a few clans actually wore gleebs, perhaps all these clans had very curly hair like mines making it possible to make gleebs.

Have I ever mentioned how relieved I am when I check the notes on something and find actual, useful commentary from white folks?

If I haven’t I’m saying it now


The main tradition of hair-matting in Europe closer to the modern era was the Polish plait.

Which is, basically, a giant matted mass of hair maintained with wax or water in which certain herbs had been steeped. Early in their popularity, they were believed to act as amulets that drew illness away from the body. There were categories and styling techniques, but outside eastern Europe, they were viewed largely with disgust. In the 18th and 19th centuries, they developed an alternate name: Jewish plaits. Anti-Semitism ahoy!

There were beliefs that the plaits were caused by a disease; in the 19th century it was said to be spread in false hairpieces from Poland. One “scientist” even theorized that wearing Polish folk costume would cause a person to develop severly matted hair.

Most of the negative reaction was ethnic prejudice, but some of it was warranted. Polish plaits allegedly don’t smell very good and can contain skin flakes, scalp oils, and sometimes even dried blood. They’re also often moist and sticky to the touch.

I can’t think why anyone would want to have that hairstyle, but if you’re a white person and you want to hair-mat, guess what? That’s the proper term for and history of the result you’ll get. It is not the same as dreadlocks and it has its own issues so you should really do proper research on Polish plaits (also called elflocks, from the belief that curses or malevolent spirits caused them) if you really must mat your hair.

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EXCERPT #3
From http://becausegoodheroesdeservekidneys.tumblr.com/post/72685531990/but-the-celts-wore-dreadlockstattoosbody “BUT THE CELTS WORE DREADLOCKS/TATTOOS/BODY MODS!!!11!!1”
Reblogged 2 years ago from sonnetscrewdriver (originally from so-treu), retrieved September 28, 2016
...."CELTIC DREADLOCKS.....
"first off, note-a-bear has a great post on how those dreadlocks that the Celts were supposedly wearing actually weren’t dreadlocks as we define them today. that’s when sh&t like historical context and knowing of what the f&&k you speak come into play...

i always think about Woodstock. like, if white folks were ever going to support dreadlocks en masse, *that* would be the time you’d see it. but you don’t. at. all.

you know when you do see white ppl starting to rock dreads, tho? after Bob Marley became an international mega superstar. but it’s not appropriation. right.

seriously, if you can find me a picture of a group of white people (from either the U.S. or Europe) wearing dreadlocks *before 1965ish*, and they *weren’t* consciously setting themselves off from the mainstream in some way (i.e. a religious cult or something) but wearing them as a cultural expression of their own culture, you win. you win everything, actually. because i’m pretty sure you’re not going to find it.

but don’t worry. i’ll wait.

ETA: i guess maybe the vikings had “dreads” too? even still, two(ish) ethnic groups a continental/racial tradition do not make. see: the rest of my post.

I’ve never come across any contemporary sources that describe Celtic hairstyles in terms of what we would understand to be dreadlocks. The descriptions I’ve read pretty much just describe them as braids or pigtails, thereby creating the lovely image of a heavily-armed hulk with a beard like a bramble patch sporting the kind of hairdo most of us would identify with schoolgirls. Same goes for the Norse. I would be very suspicious of anyone trying to claim there was a white tradition that incorporated anything like dreadlocks. Outside of Africa and places that have a large concentration of people with African heritage, the only traditions I know of that incorporate anything vaguely similar are Hinduism and some of Aztecs’ priesthood. Though I did read in an article on modern Buddhism that some Tibetan monks are now apparently favouring dreadlocks over the more traditional shaved head.

The only European thing I can think of is what’s called a Polish plait, but that doesn’t look so much like dreadlocks as it does a hairy loaf of bread....

OH CHRIST WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL DOING THE “CELTIC DREADLOCKS” THING SIT DOWN AND LISTEN YOU BASTARDS

What this refers to is the IRISH - not pan-Celtic - practice of wearing their hair long at the front and short at the back, with the front part comprising of a matted lock of hair called a ‘glibbe’. And this practice is first referenced in 1596, in Spenser’s View of Ireland. So let’s just start with re-affirming the already-stated point: THIS IS NOT CELTIC. IT IS SPECIFICALLY MEDIEVAL IRISH. So if you’re claiming the ethnic right to wear dreads because you’re descended from Celts, unless you are referring to specifically people from Medieval Ireland, NO.

Now, allegedly, the Irish wore glibbes because the matting of the hair was so think [sic “thick”] they felt it basically functioned as a helmet. Quoth Spenser:

“their going to battle without Armour on their Bodies or Heads, but
trusting to the Thickness of their Glibbs, the which (they say) will
Sometimes bear off a good stroke”

Furthermore, the outraged Spenser alleged, the glibbes were “fit Marks as a Mantle is for a Thief”, because the Irish could simply push the glibbes back or pull them low over the eyes and so change their appearance totally in one second, thus allowing them to evade the law. This does, however, give us a pretty good idea as to style. This means if you want to wear traditional Irish glibbes, there’s the style to do it in. If you’re just wearing long dreadlocks like Bob Marley, NO.

And to be honest, the jury is still a little bit out on whether or not glibbes were specifically matted hair, or if Spenser the Racist Englishman was just trying to mock the Irish for having curly red hair that was therefore quite thick. It was probably matted, because he also goes on to lament English people appropriating the hairstyle.

But otherwise, all Celtic hair traditions revolved strongly around plaiting styles, and most likely that’s what the Romans’ 'snake-like hair’ comment refers to, which is the other bit of 'evidence’ people like to try and cite. So yeah - if you want to have matted hair because of Cultural Reasons of Being Celtic, then first of all, you’re going to need to be descended from a very specific Celtic grouping, and secondly, you’re going to need to grow an extremely specific style. Otherwise, NO. You are just doing cultural appropriation.”...

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Monday, September 26, 2016

The Changing Meanings Of "Hot Mess"

Edited by Azizi Powell

This post traces the changing meanings in the United States of the vernacular term "hot mess".

The content of this post is presented for etymological, cultural, and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S COMMENT
This tweet motivated me to write this post on the term "hot mess":
John Nichols @NicholsUprising
"When primary message of a candidate's surrogates on the day before a debate is that they oppose fact checking, that candidate is a hot mess."
8:13 PM - 25 Sep 2016

Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/09/25/1574151/-Trump-camp-gets-touchy-touchy-about-all-the-pre-debate-coverage-of-Trump-s-compulsive-lying
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Prior to reading that tweet, I came across the term "hot mess" in this comment from a discussion thread about high school stomp & shake cheerleading which I included in this recent pancocojams post http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/09/westover-high-school-fayetteville-north.html
Adrian Lewis
"This cheer is a disgrace, motions are sloppy, people are off, you sound a hot mess when you say it and i can barley understand you. (jussayin) #ProudCheerleader4YEARSSTRONG"
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Here's the reply to that comment:
Teya J
"@adrian Lewis it's really not. This cheer go hard, their moves aren't sloppy, and they are tight in arms and hip movements. Y u raining on somebody's parade?..."
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I don't know when I first heard the term "hot mess". I've used it informally and I've often heard it used informally as an insulting description of a person, thing, or situation. Since I'm interested in word origins, meanings, and how those meanings change, I've thought about the term "hot mess", but never looked it up online before today.

Initially, I thought that the word "hot" in "hot mess" was an intensifier which meant something like "really" (i.e. He is really a mess.). I found a comment that supports that meaning in my online search (Read #8 in the dcurbanmon's discussion thread below).

I still believe that a person, thing, or situation that is "a hot mess" is worse than a person, thing, or situation that is just described as "a mess". But after reading some of the comments given below, particularly some comments written by some bloggers in the [Washington] D.C. urban moms' forum and some definitions found on urbandictionary.com., I'm now leaning more towards the view that the word "hot" in "hot mess" means something that (or someone who) is like a "big mess on the stove, all boiled over"* or "a steaming pile of dog poop*". Note that "dog poop" is colloquially referred to as "dog mess".

*These quotes are from either dcurbanmom's or urbandictionary.com's defintions.

A newer (for me, and I think "newer" historically) definition of "hot mess" is:
"a person or thing that is a mess, as in being disorganized, confused, or untidy, yet remains attractive or appealing"
He’s a hot mess when he wakes up in the morning!
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2016 "http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hot-mess
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For the record, that website indicated that "hot mess" is a noun. That website also included a section entitled "Examples from the Web for hot mess". However, that section only had one example and that example was listed under the sub-heading of "Contemporary Examples". Here's that example:
"President Obama could start mopping up this hot mess by causing some heads to roll in his Chicago campaign headquarters."

[source] An Obama Campaign Photo That Looks Like a Young Republican Rally
Mansfield Frazier
April 9, 2012; Daily Beast
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That example doesn’t appear to me to fit the definition that website gave for "hot mess". Consider that if, as the Daily Beast writer noted, President Obama started mopping up a hot mess by firing people in his Chicago campaign headquarters, did those actions result in him remaining attractive or appealing?

On the other hand, I believe that the definition of "hot mess" as 'something or someone that is a "popping hot", boiling over the stove mess, or something/someone that or who resembles a steaming pile of dog poop' does fit that sentence.

Furthermore, I believe that the definition of 'hot mess' as something that or someone who is "disorganized, confused, or untidy that remains attractive or appealing" is the result of people trying to graft one of the slang meanings of "hot" (i.e. sexy, physically attractive) unto the term "hot mess". But the word "hot" doesn't always have a vernacular meaning. And the word "hot" doesn't have to mean "physically attractive". Another slang meaning of "hot" is something that is stolen. That meaning may have come about because if someone touches that stolen item, he or she could end up being burned - arrested and jailed. Also, a very popular record is "hot" as it is "burning up" the music charts.

As my earlier comment implied, I believe that the term "hot mess" [in the United States} came from African American Vernacular English, and the definition of "hot mess" as something that (or someone who) is "disorganized, confused, or untidy that (who) remains attractive and appealing" is a relatively new meaning that White Americans came up with. Given a definition included on urbandictionary.com, a definition of "hot mess" that includes a positive element can be dated to at least 2011. Read that definition below. However, it appears that that type of definition gained in popularity in 2014 due to its use in several mainstream American television series.

*Read the Arrested Development section below and other information/comments in this post and let me know what you think about this subject.

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A HISTORICAL OVERVIEW OF VERNACULAR DEFINITIONS FOR THE TERM "HOT MESS"
From http://time.com/46267/hot-mess-history-amy-schumer/ How the Meaning of ‘Hot Mess’ Has Changed Through History
Katy Steinmetz April 2, 2014
...."In the 1800s, someone mentioning a “hot mess” was likely talking about food, especially food being served to soldiers. “When the inspection was over,” writes Arthur Duke of Wellington in 1880, “the Major-General asked the men if they had any complaints, upon which about half the battalion fell out, to complain of being deprived of their hot mess.” In Latin, missus refers to a portion of food, and for centuries its descendant mess literally referred to a meal or the amount of food needed to make a meal (“We cut a mess ’a pork here.”) or even the amount of milk a cow gives at one milking (“Ol’ Bess, she gives a good mess.”).

By the early 1900s, Americans were using “hot mess” in a figurative sense, to describe spots of trouble or unpleasant, confusing situations. Kory Stamper, associate editor at Merriam-Webster, dug up one example from Pall Mall Magazine, in a 1907 fictional account of mounted police who appear to be encountering mountain people: “‘Now, ef I says the word, yo’ll be in a hot mess in about one minute!’” a character announces, “’Mounters’ ain’t ‘lowed in ‘yar!’” In a 1912 book about Andrew Jackson, the author describes the former president as a man who “was pretty apt to make a nice hot mess” of things. You know, with that temperament of his.

In the South Midland region of the U.S., encompassing parts of states like Georgia, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee and Alabama, “mess” is used to describe an “objectionable or foolish person.” Ben Zimmer, executive director at Vocabulary.com, points out that none other than Scarlett O’Hara called Melanie a “mealy-mouthed little mess” in the 1936 novel Gone With the Wind.

Zimmer also points out that “mess” and “hot” both have an abundance of slang meanings. Mess can describe an eccentric person, a large quantity or something both “praiseworthy” and “confusing.” Hot can be used to describe someone daring, flamboyant, uninhibited, wild, intense, lustful, sexy or drunk"...
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The author of this article writes that in the context of Amy Schumer’s Comedy Center series, the definition of "hot mess" would be something like “(n.), someone in obvious disarray or disorganization, esp. while remaining attractive in spite of this.” The author further writes that "Ads for the second season of comedienne Amy Schumer’s sketch show, Inside Amy Schumer, promised viewers one thing in bold capital letters in advance of the premiere Tuesday night: “HOT. MESS.”

For hip kids familiar with that slang term, it’s easy to see why promoters chose it to sum up the program—one in which the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Schumer spills sandwiches on herself and considers participating in “low budge” pornography.”....
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As a means of establishing a date for this particular definition of the term "hot mess", here's information about Amy Schumer's series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Amy_Schumer
"Inside Amy Schumer is an American sketch comedy television series created and hosted by its star, Amy Schumer. The series premiered on April 30, 2013, on Comedy Central.... Inside Amy Schumer completed its second season on June 3, 2014, and was renewed for a third season a week late"...

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"HOT TERM" ADDED TO OXFORD DICTIONARY IN 2014
From http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/oxford-dictionary-adds-words-side-boob-hot-mess-and-yolo-2014148 Oxford Dictionary Adds Words "Side Boob," "Hot Mess," and "YOLO", By Sierra Marquina, August 14, 2014

"hot mess (n.): a person or thing that is spectacularly unsuccessful or disordered"

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THE TELEVISION SERIES "ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT" AND THE TERM "HOT MESS"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_Development_(season_1)
"The first season of the television comedy series Arrested Development aired between November 2, 2003 and June 6, 2004, on Fox in the United States."...

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From http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/118204/hot-mess-meaning-and-etymology
mrmackerel, May 19 '14 “Hot mess” meaning and etymology
...."There was an episode of Arrested Development where the term "hot mess" was created with the currently popular US meaning. You even learn why the term was made. And around that time, this was not a popular term in the US. So, there is the possibility that episode is the root. Other TV shows have also been trying to pump new terms into pop culture. I think 30 Rock got a few wins there.

EDIT - from Arrested Development wiki: "The Bluth family frequently use the phrase 'hot mess' to describe each other in Season Four. [Although the term was defined and used in a previous season.]* It gained popular usage after the designer Christian Siriano used the term on the fourth season of Project Runway."
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*I'm not sure what season of Arrested Development the writer is referring to here.

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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_Development_(season_4)
"The fourth season of the television comedy series Arrested Development premiered on Netflix on May 26, 2013 and consists of 15 episodes.[1][2] This season serves as a revival to the series after it was canceled by Fox in 2006.

The show's storyline centers on the Bluth family, a formerly wealthy, habitually dysfunctional family, and the show incorporates hand-held camera work, narration, archival photos, and historical footage."
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Note: The Bluth family is a White American family.

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From http://mentalfloss.com/article/57200/11-great-moments-foreshadowing-arrested-development "11 Great Moments of Foreshadowing in 'Arrested Development'"
"#9

S4E10 – During this episode, Lucille and Buster discover a phrase that both find very useful in their arguments, and it becomes a running joke between the two: "A hot mess." They’re a little behind the times, though. Michael uses the phrase to describe Lucille 2 in the first episode of the season and Oscar yells it to Dr. Norman in the second.”

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From https://apps.npr.org/arrested-development/joke-159.html
"Season 4
1: Flight of the Phoenix
Michael refers to Lucille Austero as a hot mess when she falls down behind her door.

2: Borderline Personalities
Dr. Norman, we have a hot mess.

10: Queen B.
Buster and Lucille both enjoy using the term "hot mess."

14: Off The Hook
Just six weeks ago, Buster was a hot mess. Lucille: "So you can see why I need the testimony of someone who isn't a hot mess." Buster: "You're a hot mess!" Lucille: "You're a hot mess!"

Sources: Joke data compiled by Adam Cole / NPR. Episode metadata from The TVDB via a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 United States (CC BY 3.0 US) license"

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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE TERM "HOT MESS" FROM [WASHINGTON] DC URBAN MOMS DISCUSSION THREAD
Pancocojams Editor:
These are selected comments from that discussion thread. All of the commenters in that discussion have the screen name "Anonymous". I'm assuming that the number after the date refers to when that comment was posted on that date. I've assigned numbers to these comments, but they may not be in consecutive order.

From http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/111172.page Please define "Hot Mess"

1. 06/15/2010 17:33
Anonymous
"I am pretty hip, if I do say so myself
But this whole "hot mess" term has got me totally confused. How do you define it?"

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2. 06/15/2010 17:59
Anonymous
"Exactly what it sounds like. A complete mess or disaster. This can mean looks or the way a person acts. Check out urban dictionary."
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Three definitions for "hot mess" from urban dictionary.com are included below.

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3. 06/15/2010 18:02
Anonymous
"I assumed that "hot" meant they were attractive."

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4. 06/15/2010 18:12
Anonymous
"A mess X 2. A big ole mess. A mess and a half. A mess that's "hot" because it's popping right now, all over the place."

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5. 06/15/2010 18:27
Anonymous
"I heard this southern slang for the first time last year, and love the term! I always picture a big mess on the stove, all boiled over = hot mess. Then someone else told me it was more like a steaming turd = hot mess. I like my mental picture better."

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From http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/111172.page

6. 11/29/2012 10:56
Anonymous
"Being a hot mess is NOT attractive or a compliment. I hope nobody has actually taken that as a compliment because there's nothing good about being a hot mess."

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7. 11/29/2012 11:07
[Quotes] :
Anonymous wrote:
I heard this southern slang for the first time last year, and love the term! I always picture a big mess on the stove, all boiled over = hot mess. Then someone else told me it was more like a steaming turd = hot mess. I like my mental picture better.

[Another Anonymous]
It's not southern slang.

[End of quotes]

Anonymous:
"People in the south have been using the term "mess", without the "hot" for generations.
Ex:"She is SUCH a MESS. Bless her heart." Usually said while shaking head. Is used with affection for small children and people you love who just don't have their stuff together. Can refer to appearance (as in a child with a dirty face) or behavior (chasing a sister through the house). Not sure what addition of hot means, although when I've heard it used is not a substitute for attractive.”

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8. 11/29/2012 11:23
Anonymous
"The hot in hot mess has nothing to do with attractiveness. It is just for emphasis on the mess."

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From http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/111172.page

9. 01/19/2013 01:07
Anonymous
"Dear White People a hot mess has nothing to do with attractiveness. It is not a compliment."

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10. 01/19/2013 20:57
[Quote] Anonymous wrote:
Dear White People a hot mess has nothing to do with attractiveness. It is not a compliment.

Anonymous
"Bizarre that you presume to know posters' race."

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11. 01/20/2013 02:35
Quote: Anonymous wrote: [01/19/2013 22:43]
It's a phrase that has its roots in black culture, "you look a hot mess" and was not a compliment. It was later coopted by semi-trendy young women in a way to refer to themselves or each other in a self-deprecating fashion. At this point, it is overused to such a degree that nobody with any cool factor would use it anymore. Now it's used by suburban worker bee types who carpool to the city, get a spot out front, and cry "rock star parking, girlfriend!" and think starbucks is the best thing to ever happen to coffee.

It was slightly clever four years ago. Now it's hackneyed.

Next up: amirite, I know right?

Unrelated but likewise overused phrase: snowflake / special snowflake / precious snowflake

[end of quote]

Anonymous
"+100000. Once white people adopt a slang term, the cool factor bites the dust."

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From http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/45/111172.page

12. 11/26/2013 21:11
[Quotes]
Anonymous wrote:
Dear White People a hot mess has nothing to do with attractiveness. It is not a compliment.

Anonymous wrote:
Bizarre that you presume to know posters' race.
[end of quotes]

Anonymous
"NP, but black people know what this phrase means, as our families have used it for generations. If you are confused as to its meaning, its a near certainty that you are not black."

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THREE DEFINITIONS OF "HOT MESS" THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO URBANDICTIONARY.COM
Pancocojams Editor:
I've assigned numbers to these definitions for referencing purposes only.

Notice the synonyms for "hot mess" that are given with the definitions.

From http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot%20mess

1. Hot Messes
"Defined, "hot messes" refers to when a "person's appearance is in a state of total disarray while still maintaining an undeniable attractiveness" & allure.

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Justin: "Did you see Molly this morning? We partied all night and she ended up passing out on the lawn."
Eric: "Yea, she came in this morning to find the rest of her clothes. She looked terrible, and awesome."
Justin: "Damn, hot messes' like that don't come around very often."


#hot messes #hot mess #hot messes' #hot #mess #messes #messes' #sexy
by jbalbs@kstate January 17, 2011

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2. Hot Mess
"a derogatory term describing a situation, behavior, appearance, etc. that is disastrously bad. Think "faux pas" but times ten. Possible origin is literal (think, steaming dogpile).

"She got up on stage and tried to sing Beyonce's "Dangerously In Love" but her performance was a hot mess."

"Girl came in to school this morning looking a hot mess, her hair all jacked up and slouchin' in house shoes."

#messy #sloppy #disgusting #nasty #stank
by nikflorida February 25, 2007

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hot mess
3. "A state of disarray so chaotic that it's dizzying to look at. A mess that is beyond the normal range of disarray. Visual clutter that draws attention to itself.

When the Project Runway contestant showed a garment made out of multicolored plush animals tied together with yarn, Heide Klum declared, "It's a hot mess!"
#messy #clutter #hoarding #chaos #junk
by JavaJaneOhio November 04, 2010

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Sunday, September 25, 2016

Five Videos About The National Museum of African American History and Culture

Edited by Azizi Powell

This post presents information about the National Museum of African American History and Culture which finally opened on September 24, 2016 in Washington, D.C. This post also showcases five videos that highlight some of the exhibits that are found in that museum.

Teh conent of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and inspirational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those enslaved African Americans, and other African Americans upon whose shoulders we now stand.

Thanks also to all those involved in the formation of this cultural museum, and all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publishers of these video on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE NATIONAL MUSEUM OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_African_American_History_and_Culture
"The National Museum of African American History and Culture (NMAAHC) is a Smithsonian Institution museum established in December 2003. The museum's building, designed by David Adjaye, is on the National Mall in Washington, D.C.. Early efforts to establish a federally owned museum featuring African American history and culture can be traced to 1915, although the modern push for such an organization did not begin until the 1970s. After years of little success, a much more serious legislative push began in 1988 that led to authorization of the museum in 2003. A site was selected in 2006. The museum opened September 24, 2016, in a ceremony led by U.S. President Barack Obama.[1]

he Smithsonian Institution listed the number of items in the museum collection in 2012 as either more than 18,000 pieces[85] or more than 25,000 pieces.[86] CBS News reported in May 2015 that the collection size had grown to 33,000 objects.[87]
Items obtained by the museum initially were received, conserved, and stored at the Smithsonian Museum Support Center in Suitland, Maryland. Dozens of permanent curatorial staff and temporary contractors accessed the items, repaired them, and conserved them in a temperature- and humidity-controlled environment. Renée Anderson, the NMAAHC's head of collections, oversaw the effort. After artifacts were selected for display, graphics and labels for each item were manufactured. Display cases for each item were also purchased, and exhibiting mounts or specially designed cases handcrafted for particularly fragile, important, or unusually sized objects. Museum officials said all artifacts and displays will be moved into the new museum in the summer of 2016, along with the museum's 175 full-time employees.[68]
As of September 2016, notable items in the collection included:
Items owned by Harriet Tubman, including eating utensils, a hymnal, and a linen and silk shawl given to her by Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom. Related items include a photographic portrait of Tubman (one of only a few known to exist), and three postcards with images of Tubman's 1913 funeral.[88]

The glass-topped casket originally used to display and bury the body of 14-year-old Emmett Till, the victim of racially motivated torture and murder in Mississippi. Till's death sparked the 1950s and '60s African American Civil Rights Movement.[89][90]

The dress which Rosa Parks was sewing the day she refused to give up her seat to a white man on a bus in Montgomery, Alabama, on December 1, 1955. Parks' action sparked the Montgomery Bus Boycott, and her action was one of the first incidents of civil disobedience in the 1950s and '60s African American Civil Rights Movement.[91]

A Selmer trumpet owned by jazz musician Louis Armstrong.[92]

A dress owned by actress and singer Pearl Bailey.[91]

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A cape and jumpsuit owned by American soul singer James Brown.[92]
The "Mothership", a 1,200-pound (540 kg) aluminum and acrylic glass prop created by funk music singer George Clinton and used during performances of his bands Parliament and Funkadelic. Clinton's original "Mothership" was scrapped in 1983; this replica was crafted by Clinton in the mid-1990s and used for about five years.[93]

A collection of costumes designed by director and costume designer Geoffrey Holder for his 1976 musical, The Wiz (an adaptation of the L. Frank Baum novel, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz).[91] The costumes won the Tony Award for Best Costume Design, the play won the Tony Award for Best Musical, and Holder won the Tony Award for Best Direction of a Musical.

A cherry red Cadillac convertible owned by rock and roll singer Chuck Berry.[85]

An amplifier, speakers, and turntables used by Tony Crush a.k.a. DJ Tony Tone of the Cold Crush Brothers.[85]

A railroad car from Chattanooga, Tennessee, used by African American passengers during the Jim Crow era. Pete Claussen and Gulf & Ohio Railways (the company he founded in 1985) donated more than $222,000 to restore the car, which was built by the Pullman Company in 1922.[94]

A sign from a bus in Nashville, Tennessee, from the Jim Crow era which indicates which seating is for blacks only.[92]

A segregated drinking fountain from the Jim Crow era with the sign "colored" (indicating it was for use by blacks only).[92]

A badge from 1850, worn by an African American in Charleston, South Carolina, indicating the wearer was a slave.[92]

Feet and wrist manacles from the American Deep South used prior to 1860.[92]

Garments worn by African American slaves.[91]

An 1874 home from Poolesville, Maryland. The dwelling was constructed by the Jones family, who were freed slaves. The Joneses later founded an all-black community nearby.[92]

Boxing headgear worn by Cassius Clay (later to be known as Muhammad Ali)

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Click that link for the complete list that is available on that page.

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From http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Smithsonian-National-Museum-of-African-American-History-Opens-to-the-Public-Saturday-394453031.html

Bells rang out throughout Washington, D.C. Saturday as the Smithsonian's highly anticipated National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington, D.C., opened after more than 100 years in the making.
Centuries of struggles and strife, decades of planning and pain, and years of hoping for a place that African-American history can call home culminated as President Barack Obama officially dedicated the museum Saturday morning.

The president opened the museum with the ringing of the historic Freedom Bell from the First Baptist Church in Williamsburg, Virginia, which was organized in 1776 by slaves.

Obama said the new national museum will help to tell a richer and fuller story of the country....

With thousands of items occupying 85,000 square feet of exhibition space, the new Smithsonian will chronicle the complex relationship between the United States and a people it once enslaved, and tell the story of those who worked to make the necessary changes to bring the country to where it is today...

The dedication featured speeches by Obama, civil rights leader U.S. Rep. John Lewis, former President George W. Bush and the museum's founding director, Lonnie Bunch. It also featured rousing musical tributes with a local flair, including Howard University's "Showtime" marching band and an a capella presentation by a choir from D.C.'s Duke Ellington School for the Arts.

The museum, the 19th and newest of the Smithsonians, opened to the public following the dedication ceremony....

A free three-day festival celebrating the talent and creativity of African-American artists is also taking place on the Washington Monument grounds. The Freedom Sounds festival features jazz, R&B, gospel and hip-hop artists throughout the weekend. The Roots, Living Colour and Public Enemy headlined the festival Saturday night, and a surprise special guest is slated to perform Sunday."...
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Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZMuu5fi4Ic for a two hour forty minutes plus video about the National Museum of African American History and Culture Grand Opening Ceremony.

Among the musical highlights of that ceremony is 11:14 - 18:49 of this video - songs by Benin, West Africa vocalist Angelique Kidjo

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SHOWCASE VIDEOS:
Example #1: A new home for African American treasures



CBS Sunday Morning, Published on Sep 11, 2016

After years of planning and construction, the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture opens its doors on September 24. The new building is home to a massive collection of artifacts showcasing four centuries of African-American life in the United States. Several celebrities, including music legend Quincy Jones, contributed personal treasures to the museum. He gave correspondent Lee Cowan a sneak preview of the new building and its historic collection.

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Example #2: Inside the National Museum of African American History and Culture



CBS This Morning Published on Sep 12, 2016

The Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture will open its doors to the public Sept. 24. "CBS This Morning" co-hosts Gayle King and Norah O'Donnell joined the museum's founding director, Lonnie Bunch, for a tour of what makes the 19th and newest Smithsonian museum

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Example #3: Inside the the National Museum of African American History and Culture



Geoff Bennett Published on Sep 16, 2016
In less than two weeks, the long-awaited Smithsonian Museum of African American History and Culture will open its doors to the public.

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Example #4: The National Museum of African American History opens in Washington, DC



CCTV America, Published on Sep 23, 2016

The National Museum of African American History will officially open its doors in Washington, D.C. on Sept. 24. African-Americans, once considered three-fifths of a person, will see their history displayed for visitors to come and understand Black America's centuries- long struggle for human dignity. CCTV America’s Jim Spellman reports.

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Example #5: Obama opens first African American history museum in US



Al Jazeera English Published on Sep 24, 2016

The first national US museum devoted exclusively to African American history and culture has opened in Washington DC.
President Barack Obama, his wife Michelle and former President George W. Bush were among the dignitaries in attendance.
Al Jazeera's Rosiland Jordan reports from Washington.

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Wednesday, September 21, 2016

Naughty By Nature's Hip Hop Song "OPP" & Donald Trump's Use Of The Term "OPM"

Edited by Azizi Powell

Part I of this post provides information about and a video & lyrics for the 1991 Naughty By Nature's Hip Hop song "OPP".

Part II of this post presents information about Donald Trump's September 21, 2016 use of the term "OPM".

The content of this post is presented for cultural and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Naughty By Nature for their musical legacy and all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks to the producer and the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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PART I

What "OPP" Means In The Naughty By Nature Song With That Title
from http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2899
..."This song is about cheating. If you're "Down with O.P.P.," it means you are willing to cheat on your boyfriend or girlfriend. Not exactly family values, but it's presented in a fun and clever way that never spells out exactly what the song means...

Down Wit' OPP" became a catch phrase in many cities where this song was popular. In New York, people wore T-shirts saying "Ya Down Wit OPP?"

Naughty by Nature was rappers Treach and Vinnie, and DJ Kay Gee. Treach, who was 20 when this came out, wrote the lyrics and was lead rapper on this.

Treach got the idea for the lyrics from a drug dealer in his neighborhood that used to move in on other dealer's territory and say he was "Down With O.P.M. - Other People's Money." Treach liked the phrase but decided to change the meaning of the last P. The year this was released, a Danny DeVito movie came out called Other People's Money."...
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In the Hip Hop record, "OPP":
OP = other people's
P (for males) - "pussy"
P (for females) - "penis" (euphemistically said to mean "property")
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Here's what the African American Vernacular English term "down wit" ("down with) means:
From http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/17852/what-does-the-phrase-i-m-down-with-mean
"If you are down with something it means that you have knowledge of something or are in agreement with it. I'm down with science means "I am familiar with science" or "science is a good thing." To be down with something is a slang phrase, and not terribly common in formal speech or writing."

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Lyrics- OPP
(Written by Freddie Perren, Alphonso Mizell, Deke Richards, Berry Gordy Jr, Vincent Brown, Anthony Criss, Keir Gist)

Arm me with harmony
Dave, drop a load on 'em

O.P.P., how can I explain it
I'll take it frame by frame it
To have y'all all jumping, shouting, saying it
O is for other, P is for peoples', scratch your temple
The last P, well that's not that simple
It's sort of like, well, another way to call a cat a kitten
It's five little letters that are missing here
You get on occasion if the other party isn't gaming
It seems I gotta start the explaining, bust it
You ever had a girl and met her on a nice hello
You get her name and number and then left feeling real mellow
You get home, wait a day she's what you wanna know about
Then you call up and it’s her girlfriend’s or her cousin’s house?!
It’s not a front, a F to the R to the O to the N to the T;
It's just her boyfriend's at her house
(Oh that’s why she’s scary)
It's OPP, time other people's what you get it
There's no room for relationship there's just room to hit it
How many brothers out there know just what I'm getting at
Who think it's wrong cause I was splitting and co-hitting that
Well if you do, that's O.P.P. and you're not down with it
But if you don't, here's your membership

You down with O.P.P.? (Yeah, you know me) [x2]
Who’s down with O.P.P.? (Every last homey)
You down with O.P.P.? (Yeah, you know me) [x2]
Who’s down with O.P.P.? (All the homies)

Well, for the ladies O.P.P. means something different
The first two letters' the same but the last is something different
It's the longest, loveliest, lean, I call it the leanest
It's another five letter word rhyming with "cleanness" or "meanness"
I won't get into that, I'll do it ah sorta properly
I'll say the last P hmmm stands for property
Now lady here comes a kiss, blow a kiss back to me
Now tell me exactly
Have you ever known a brother who had another like a girl or wife
And you just had to stop a toast cause he looked just that nice?
You looked at him, he looked at you and you knew right away
He had someone but he was gonna be yours anyway!
You couldn't be seen with him at all and still you didn't care
Cause in a room behind a door no one but y'all are there
When y'all are finished, y'all can leave and only y'all would know
And then y'all could throw that skeleton bone right in the closet do'.
Now don't be shocked cause if you're down I want your hands up high
Say O.P.P. (O.P.P.) I like to say with pride
Now when you do it, do it well and make sure that it counts
You're now down with a discount

You down with O.P.P.? (Yeah, you know me!) [x3]
Who’s down with O.P.P.? (Every last lady!)
You down with O.P.P.? (Yeah, you know me!) [x3]
Who’s down with O.P.P.? (All the ladies!)

A scab tried to O.P.P. me
I had a girl and she knew that. Matter-of-fact her and my girl was partners that
Had a fall out, disagreement, yeah an argument
She tried to do me so we did it in my apartment
Bust it
That wasn't the thing it must have been the way she hit the ceiling
Cause after that she kept on coming back and catching feelings
I said, "Let's go, my girl is coming so you gotta leave."
She said, "Oh no, I love you, Treach!" I said, "Now, child, please!
"You gots to leave, come grab your coat, right now you gotta go!"
I said, "Now look you chooses stairs or chooses the window
This was a thing, a little thing, you shouldn't have brought your heart
Cause you know I was OPP, hell from the very start!"
Come on, come on, now let me tell you what it's all about
When you get down, you can't go 'round running off at the mouth
That's rule number one in this O.P.P. establishment
You keep your mouth shut and it won't get back to her or him!
Exciting isn't it, a special kinda business
Many of you will catch the same sorta O.P.P. messing with
Him or her for sure ain't going to admit it
When O.P.P. comes, damn skippy I'm with it

You down with O.P.P.? (Yeah you know me!) [x3]
Who’s down with O.P.P.? (This whole party!)
[x2]

Source -Google Lyrics-OPP
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Information about Naughty By Nature from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naughty_by_Nature:
"Naughty by Nature is a Grammy Award-winning American hip hop trio from East Orange, New Jersey consisting of Treach (Anthony Criss, born December 2, 1970), Vin Rock (Vincent Brown, born September 17, 1970), and DJ Kay Gee (born Keir Lamont Gist, September 15, 1969)."...

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Showcase Video: Naughty By Nature - O.P.P. [Official Video] HQ



REALnizz, Uploaded on Jun 6, 2010

Song: O.P.P.
Year: 1991
Performer: Naughty By Nature

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PART II - DONALD TRUMP AND THE TERM "OPM"

Article #1:
From http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/donald-trump-foundation-other-peoples-money/
"Trump brags about using 'other people's money' amid questions over charity use" By Jeremy Diamond, CNN, Updated 12:54 PM ET, Wed September 21, 2016
Kenansville, North Carolina (CNN) "Donald Trump bragged Tuesday there's "nothing like" using other people's money, hours after a report said he used more than $250,000 from his charitable organization to litigate lawsuits against his business interests.

Trump, while calling for building safe zones in Syria financed by Gulf states, vaunted the benefits of doing business with "OPM."
"It's called OPM. I do it all the time in business. It's called other people's money," Trump said. "There's nothing like doing things with other people's money because it takes the risk -- you get a good chunk out of it and it takes the risk."

His comments came on the heels of a Washington Post report published earlier Tuesday, which called attention to Trump's funneling of contributions from the Donald J. Trump Foundation to charities in order to settle lawsuits against Trump. Trump has only sparsely contributed to his foundation. Instead, the foundation is largely funded by outside donors -- not Trump himself."...

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Article #2:
From http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/21/donald-trump-other-peoples-money-north-carolina-trump-foundation/90772306/ "Trump likes OPM (Other People's Money)" David M Jackson, USA TODAY 10:15 a.m. EDT September 21, 2016
KENANSVILLE, N.C. — "Donald Trump, under fire for questionable use of charitable foundation money, says he likes the concept of OPM: Other People's Money.

"It's called OPM," Trump told supporters in eastern North Carolina on Tuesday night. "I do it all the time in business. It's called Other People's Money ... There's nothing like doing things with other people's money because it takes the risk — you get a good chunk out of it and it takes the risk."

Trump was talking about his plan to have Persian Gulf allies finance "safe zones" for Syrian refugees.

....The Washington Post reported that Trump spent $258,000 from his charitable foundation to settle lawsuits involving his businesses.

One case involved unpaid fines over the height of a flagpole at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla. The other involved the settlement of a lawsuit over a golf contest.

The Post reported that these cases "were among four newly documented expenditures in which Trump may have violated laws against 'self-dealing' — which prohibit nonprofit leaders from using charity money to benefit themselves or their businesses."

Trump started his foundation with his own money, but, the Post reported, he financed it and its donations in later years with donations from others.

The Trump campaign disputed the story.

"There was not, and could not be, any intent or motive for the Trump Foundation to make improper payments," said Trump spokesman Jason Miller. "All contributions are reported to the IRS, and all Foundation donations are publicly disclosed."

That public disclosure is how the Post determined the donations had been made.

In the meantime, Trump — who has pledged to build a border wall to be paid for by Mexico — will continue to promote a "safe zone" plan that Gulf states will finance.

"We’re going to do this," Trump said in North Carolina. "In this case, from a humanitarian standpoint. OPM: Other People’s Money.”

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S COMMENT
It's amazing how so many people positively view a person like Donald Trump as a successful businessman even though he cheats in the business world, using other people's money-including money donated to his charity foundation- for things & in ways that personally benefit him. And those same people probably look down on the idea of "cheating on people" that is expressed in Naughty By Nature's "OPP" record.

Personally, I think that both of these value sets are deplorable.

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